[Tags: scam, internet, business]
This is a new being sent in reply to ads placed on Craigslist. Give thanks to Tiesha Star for sending this one in.
Avoid any association with this scam and do not respond to any emails from Exclusive Inc.
Do not cash any checks received from the this "job". They are fake or fraudulent and if deposited will be subtracted from your bank balance once the fraud is discovered.
If you received another job scam featuring another company please forward the email to .
How do I spot a job scam?
1.) The message is for a position that you did not apply for
2.) The message is from or asking for a reply to an email address from a free email provider (ie: @aol.com, @yahoo.com, @gmail.com)
3.)The position is for a work at home job. Let's get real here most of these positions are hard to come by.
4.) The message provides no phone and/or no mailing address
5.) The company does not have a website or the website was created in the last year. Do a whois lookup to see when a domain was created.
6.) The job has few qualifications
7.) The message is written with poor english
8.) A Google search for the company finds little or no history for the company
9.) The email fails to mention you by name. Starts off with generic opening (ie: Dear job seeker, Dear applicant).
*** This list is not all inclusive. Remember if you have to ask yourself if it's a scam it probably is!
What should I do if I provided my information to scammers?
- Do not respond to further communications.
- Do not cash any checks you received from fraudulent offer.
- If you sent bank Information: Call your bank immediately and tell them what happened. They should be able to change your account number or cancel your account.
- If you are still concerned you might want to enroll in credit monitoring such as LifeLock Identity Theft Prevention
- You can also file a claim with The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3). The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C), and the Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA). They are probably overloaded with these types of claim though, so I would not expect an individual response. You can also contact the Better Business Bureau or your states attorney general's office
- Post a comment below with any information you have on this scam to inform other people to try and avoid any future victims. Post the email you received with exact wording if different from original posted so when people search for terms they find this warning.
From: Eric Dennis
Subject: Re: Administrative Assistant
Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 8:33 PM
Reference No: - LSLCA/2031/ 8161/05 HO Ref:99645
Batch No: - R4/A313/2-60 Port
Ref:87023124
Application No: LSLCA/2031/ 8161/05 FCO Number: 812374
Respondent: Recruiting Officer
Dear Applicant
We received your resume and your application on Craigslist on the july of this year but we are really sorry to inform you that this Position as been filled, it is no more available. Our HR Managers have gone through your resume and due to some certain factors you have been picked as one of our possible candidate
to be one of our Accounts Payable Specialist which is the post That is available right now.
ABOUT US:
We strive to ensure quality from crop to counter.
end, Exclusive inc. requires the highest standards and
specifications, not just for product ingredients; every detail of production, transport, delivery, preparation and service is Also exhaustively monitored.
A focus on quality permeates every aspect of the business.
Exclusive inc. standards lead the food industry, and we
continue to work with government and health officials to Investigate improvements.
Exclusive inc. also recognize the importance of a balanced diet and lifestyle and continues to seek quality new products Which satisfy customers expectations for taste and value? We Are independent and privately owned.
We serve the entire United States, Your primary task for now, as an Accounts Payable Specialist of this company is to coordinate payments from clients and help us with the payment Process. You are not involved in any marketing. You would be responsible for receiving payments after we have offered our
professional services to our numerous clients. After this has been done the customer has to pay for the service but in most Cases we make our clients prepay for services. About 90 percent of our clients prefer to pay through Certified Checks or Money Orders drawn from the United State based on the amount Involved. We have decided to open this new contract -to-hire
job position for solving this problem pending the time that we Will open a branch office in this state.
Your First Primary task (Collection of Payments):
1. Receive payment from our Customers or Clients.
2. Cash Payment at your Bank.
3. Deduct 10% which will be your percentage/pay on Payment processed
4. Forward balance after deduction of percentage/pay to any of the offices you will be contacted to send payment to, you have a lot of free time doing another job, because this job is part Time, you'll get good income. But this job is very challenging And you should understand it. We are considering your application because you satisfy our requirements and we are sure you will be an earnest assistant till we start running our Branch office in your state.
ADVANTAGES
-You do not have to go out as you will work as an independent
Contractor right from your home office.
-Your job is absolutely legal.
-You can earn up to 3000-4000 dollars monthly depending on time you Will spend for this job. You do not need any capital to start.
-You can do the Work easily without leaving or affecting your present Job. The employees who make efforts and work hard have A strong possibility to become managers. Anyway our employees Never leave us. But the problem we have is trust but we hope we Can trust you.
Get back to us with the requirements below if you are
interested so that we can add your mailing address to our Regional database and forward it to our customers for them to Send payments after conducting background checks.
REQUIREMENTS:
Full Names_______________
Mailing Address (Not P. O Box) _________________
City__ ___________________
State____________________
Postal Code______________
Phone Number____________________
Email Address____________________
Age______________________
Occupation_______________
Marital Status___________
Sex______________________
Send the requirements we asked for to this email address We are not asking for your bank info neither are we asking for your social security number, we are only asking for the name of Your bank and that is all.
Your response to this email is needed, so that we can
reconfirm your mailing address details we have in our
Database.
We will be updating you as soon as the payment is being sent to you and you will be directed as to where to have the remaining 90% of the money sent to, after the deduction of your 10% pay On any payments received and processed by you.
A swift acknowledgment of the receipt of this email will be Appreciated.
Thanks For Your Total Understanding and Moral cooperation.
Wagner Mill Inc. is an equal opportunity employer!
I can best be contacted by email as I am on computer every time.
I will be expecting your respones
Regards,
Eric Dennis
Recruiting Officer
Exclusive inc
These people are so dumb they use a standard email template for scams and forgot to change the company name from another scam "Wagner Mill Inc." to "Exclusive, Inc."
If you received this please post a comment so I know posting these warnings are useful.
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Reader Comments (Page 3 of 6)
Wednesday June 8, 2011 @ 12:45 AM
This sounds like the one's I'm reading.. but I found them online - including the hiring manager... am I super naive?
Brentnall Financial Group Pty Ltd
222 Clarence st, Sydney,
NSW, 2000, Australia.
Hello Sherrie,
my name is Charles McAlister and I am Brentnall Financial Group hiring
manager. We have found and carefully reviewed your CV at Careerbuilder,
and we would like to consider you for the position of Funds Transfer
Administrator within Brentnall Financial Group Pty Ltd.
Key responsibilities
1. Route and input all payment instructions received by mail, fax or
electronically in a timely and accurate manner.
2. Control workflow on a daily basis to ensure deadlines are adhered.
3. Monitor and control of required reports.
4. Basic knowledge of online payment systems.
5. Excellent communication skills.
Salary & Benefits
1. You will be paid a basic salary of 2500 USD per month.
2. You will benefit from the commissions, which are 5-7% of each transaction.
Normally the amounts that we process vary from 2,000 USD to 15,000 USD,
but can go higher on special occasions.
Why we need Funds Transfer Administrators
When buying-selling operations via the Internet are concerned, the buyer
and the seller don’t know each other and are placed in different corners
of the world. Therefore, it is important both to the buyer and the seller
for their transaction to be made safely. Payment security means receiving
money concerning the transaction by a reliable, experienced, impartial
person - our Funds Transfer Administrator. He will hold all the money
until all the terms of the deal are satisfied and only then release them
to the intended receiver. Please, visit our web-site for more information.
Having a Funds Transfer Administrator in every country we can quickly
transfer funds inside a country without wasting time on the international
bank transfers, and continue our rapid growth rather than overwhelming our
own bank account with inbound and outbound transactions leading to severe
hold times and possible service interruption. It is time that is of
significant importance to our clients.
The main task of the Funds Transfer Administrator will be receiving money
transactions to any bank account he would like to use for the purposes of
this job; and then forwarding these transactions to the next party of the
process according to our instructions. Funds Transfer Administrator will
be processing approximately 1-2 transactions per week.
If you are ready to proceed, you have to confirm your intention by filling &
signing the Agent Agreement. You may download it here:
http://www.brentnallfg.com/FundsTransferAdministratorUS.pdf
If you agree with ALL conditions of the Agent Agreement, please fill in
the registration form online at
http://www.brentnallfg.com/registration-form-us.php
In order to find more information about the Funds Transfer Administrator
job, please visit the links below:
http://www.brentnallfg.com/payment-security.php
http://www.brentnallfg.com/payment-security-faq.php
Thank you for choosing Brentnall Financial Group.
--
Sincerely yours,
Charles McAlister.
Wednesday June 8, 2011 @ 11:25 PM
I just got the same email from Turner yesterday! I thought it was realy odd so I did some searching. What a scam.
Monday June 20, 2011 @ 08:50 AM
This website made me wonder as they only advertise jobs for Western Union and so I decided to check in here. This is so obviously a scam, but then I am computer literate and wise to scams. Wonder how many people have fallen for this. These people should be jailed and do not think the name given by 'who-is' or anything to do with the website is real as there are companies in India that will register any web address under any name for a cahs transfer, thus people become untraceable.
from Maria Brooke maria[at]career-source.co.uk
reply-to maria[at]career-source.co.uk
to **********
date 20 June 2011 12:38
subject Great employment offers from an Agency
mailed-by listmanagerservices.com
Signed by listmanagerservices.com
hide details 12:38 (1 hour ago)
Hello,
First of all let me introduce myself - my name is Maria and I am the manager of Career Source Recruitment agency for part-time home based employee opportunities. I've obtained information that you are searching for a job now and i would like to suggest you several various offers from our Customers including main positions and additional earnings that may combine with main activity.
I do not want to waste your precious time, so if you're interested in this offer please confirm your interest by replying to this email and I'll do my best to find the position that suits you best.
In case if you are not interested in this suggestion - please unsubscribe from this list and our candidate database so you won't receive any offers from our company.
Unsubscribe me from this mailing list
_________________
Maria Brooke
Career Source UK
37 belgrave road, London, London, United Kingdom, e17 8qd
Thursday June 23, 2011 @ 09:06 AM
Thank you very much for this page.
This is in reference to the Exclusive Inc. post. I received an email from Victornox. I had also answered a post on Craigslist for Administrative Assitant position. I questions the first email. Which was sent to my primary email address the response I got went to another email that I rarely use and did not provide. So be very careful of this one. What is surprising is that it has almost all the same errors. It almost looks as if they do a cut and paste job.
The Company Name is Victorinox,We are a swiss based trade association that deal in the sales and distribution of wrist watches and other items.The primary goal of the Office Assistant/Receptionist is to provide local customer assistant to our clients within North America. You will be assisting our clients within North America, the assistance to be provided will include: payment collections and customer service.And also i seek someone who can be my personal assistant and act on my behalf when i am not in the country.So In your reply please indicate if you will be interested in been my personal assistant. This position is home based and communication will mostly be via Text,Calls,and Emails.
I'm looking for someone that can be trusted and reliable to work very well with good understanding. This position is home-based and flexible, working with me is basically about instructions and following them.
Presently i am in Switerzland for the company representative meeting and i want my assistant to start work immediately and also in your reply indicate when you wish to start work.
Your duties will include:
- Collecting Local Payments
When a buyer in United States decides to purchase an item through an online auction from our sellers he has the following payment options: Money orders, international wire transfer, international check, or local wire transfer. The quickest option of these is local wire transferring. Local wire transfers are the option that the sales support representative will provide to the clients.
- Managing Data
Along with the payments received from buyers you will be receiving details for these sales. These details will include items sold, price, and buyer's information. You are to file and maintain these purchasing records and transactions.
- Forwarding of the Payments
Once you receive each payment you will be keeping 10% as commission and forwarding the rest to the seller or representative, whose information will be provided prior each transaction. It is crucial to complete forwarding of the payments in a time efficient manner.
- Fees, and Transferring Procedures
All fees are covered by the company. The fees for transferring are simply deducted from the payments received. No client will contact you during initial stage of the trial period. After three weeks of the trial period you will begin to have contact with the buyers via email in regards to collection of the payments. For the first three weeks you will simply receive all of the transferring details, and payments, along with step by step guidance from your supervisor. You will be forwarding the received payments by wire transfer.
Additional Information:
Salary:
During the trial period, you will be paid 2,000USD per month while working on average 3-4hours per day, plus 10% commission from every payment received and forwarded. The salary will be sent in the form of wire transfer directly to your account. After the trial period your base pay salary will go up to 2,200USD per month, plus 10% commission.
Taxes:
You will receive a monthly invoice stating your total income. All applicable taxes are covered by the company,Basic wage is $400 Weekly excluding Gas expenses and compensations.
Your First Primary task (Collection of Payments):
1. Receive payment from our Customers or Clients.
2. Cash Payment at your Bank or any cashing facilities near you.
3. Deduct 10 % which will be your percentage/pay on Payment processed
4. Forward balance after deduction of percentage/pay to any of the offices you will be contacted to send payment to, you'll have a lot of free time doing another job, because this job schedule is flexible, you'll get good income. But this job is very challenging and you should understand it.
Please kindly fill your details below, so that you can get started.
Personal Information
Full Name:
Address:
Apt #:
City:
State/Province:
Zip Code:
Age:
Sex:
Postal Code:
Resident Phone Number:
Mobile:
The employee,acknowledged the Detailed Job Description
and signed___________ _____________________
(First Name and Last Name of Employee)
So if this sounds like your next career move then apply. clifford.joseph8[at]gmail.com
Kindly respond with requested details .Once I have received your contact information, I will get back to you with the task for this week.
Thanks in anticipation of your prompt response.
Regards.
Financial Representative .
Joseph Clifford.
Tuesday June 28, 2011 @ 05:01 PM
I got the exact same email as Diana, same company and everything....and I feel like a fool. I wish I would have found this site yesterday because I actually replied. :( I was just so excited to have an opportunity I didn't even think about it being a scam.
Friday July 22, 2011 @ 10:30 PM
Notice most of them state "NO PO BOX." This is so they avoid mail fraud charges.
Wednesday July 27, 2011 @ 12:29 AM
Same thing happened to me, and I didn't kno it was a scam till I sent him my contact info. Can anything bad happen from sending him this info?
Tuesday August 2, 2011 @ 05:17 PM
This is what I received today. The salary is way above average and the poor English in the email were telltale signs. Thanks guys and this is the whois link for the recruitment company:
http://whois.domaintools.com/career-source.co.uk
Email received:
from Robyn Mosby robyn[at]career-source.co.uk
reply-to robyn[at]career-source.co.uk
to ***[at]gmail.com
date Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:10 PM
subject Jobsite recruitment partner position offer for ******.
hide details 3:10 PM (7 hours ago)
Dear ******,
We have obtained your resume via Jobsite UK.
My name is Robyn Mosby, I am the manager of Career Source Recruitment, a leading recruiting agency for home based and part-time jobs. I email you with regard to the job seeking information you have posted.
I'd like to propose you the vacancy of Administrative Assistant available for your consideration at your preferred Location.
I have reviewed your resume and you seem to be an appropriate candidate for the position which is currently open within one of the companies we perform our recruiting campaigns for.
Our client, Yakimo FX, a major Japanese financial corporation, the foreign exchange specialists Operating within the EU is a focused provider of global payments and processing.
The company was formed in 1999 and has operations in Ireland, Australia, Spain, Malta, UAE, Scandinavia, UK and the USA.
In a view of our client's growth in the United Kingdom market, they are currently searching for new employees.
Specific education is not required for work for the Yakimo FX. Our client provides you with the part-time position, you can work 2-3 hours a day at any convenient schedule mostly sitting in front of your PC.
The initial payrate varies within £1200-£3000 to be uplifted up to £8,000, and even higher bonuses for those ones making a good showing in some time.
Advantages :
-flexible working hours - choose a convenient work schedule;
-commissions from business deals;
-no charges and fees;
-social welfare;
-career development ; -no special skills required ;
-up to three employment hours daily ;
-interesting and exciting work in the developing company.
z Could you please confirm that you are still interested in employment? If you are, please, let me know and I will get back to you with more information on the position.
_____________________
Robyn Mosby
Career Source UK
! Recruit ment Manager
Wednesday August 3, 2011 @ 01:27 PM
Dear xxxxxxx
Your Resume has been obtained from the Jobsite UK database.
My name is Robyn Mosby, I am the manager of Career Source Recruitment, a leading recruiting agency for home based and part-time jobs. I email you with regard to the job seeking information you have recently posted.
I'd like to offer you the vacancy of Administrative Assistant available for your consideration at your preferred Location.
Our client, Yakimo FX - a major Japanese financial company,
the foreign exchange specialists operating within the Europe is a focused provider of global payments and processing.
The company was formed in 1999 and has operations in Malta, UAE, Spain, Scandinavia, GB, Ireland, Australia
and t! he USA.< br />
In a view of our client's growth in the Great Britain market,
they are currently looking for new employees.
Specific education is not requested to work at the Yakimo FX. Our client provides you with the part-time job, you are able work 2-3 hours a day at any convenient schedule mostly sitting in front of your PC.
The initial salary varies within £1200-£3000 to be increased up to £8,000, and even higher bonuses for those ones making a good showing in some time.
Advantages :
-up to three employment hours per day ;
-career development ;
-social welfare;
-interesting and exciting work in the developing corporation.
-commissions from business deals;
-no charges and fees; -no special skills requested ;
-flexible working hours - choose a convenient work schedule;
This is NOT a telesales position.
See the company's official site for additional information:
http://www.yakimo-fx.com
Could you please confirm that you are still interested in employment? If you are, please, let me know and I will get back to you with more information on the position.
Wednesday August 3, 2011 @ 01:30 PM
Seriously... i did not realise it until I received a word doc to sign a contract asking bank details..its scam.. i recevied it from id robyn[at]career-source.co.uk and the website is registered just few months back. i checked it here... http://www.whois.sc/
Tuesday August 9, 2011 @ 08:39 AM
I'm always sceptical of any thing that arrives in my inbox, I am very much in need of a job and was very tempted by this offer, but something didn't feel right. It wasn't until I searched on both the womans name and career source company name did this get flagged up as a scam. Its despicable how these [at]%$*&!# target people who live very close to or are already below the poverty line.
Dear David Wale,
Your CV has been obtained on the Jobsite UK database.
My name is Maria, I am the manager of Career Source Recruitment, a leading recruiting agency for home based and part-time jobs. I email you with regard to the job seeking information you have recently posted.
I'd like to propose you the post of Administrative Assistant available for your consideration at your preferred Location.
Our client, Yakimo FX - a major Japanese financial company,
the foreign exchange specialists operating within the Europe is a focused provider of payments and processing.
The company was formed in 1999 and has operations in Scandinavia, Great Britain, Spain, Malta, Australia, UAE, Ireland
and the USA.
In a view of our client's growth in the GB market,
they are currently searching for new personnel.
Specific education is not required to work for the Yakimo FX. Our client provides you with the part-time job, you can work 2-3 hours a day at any convenient schedule mostly staying in front of your PC.
The initial salary varies within £1200-£3000 to be uplifted up to £8,000, and even higher bonuses for those ones making a good showing in some time.
Benefits : -no special skills needed ;
-flexible working schedule - choose a convenient work schedule;
-commissions from business deals;
-career growth ;
-no charges and fees;
-up to three employment hours per day ;
-social welfare;
-interesting and exciting employment in the successfull corporation.
This is NOT a telesales position.
See the company's official site for additional information:
http://www.yakimo-fx.com
Could you please confirm that you are still interested in employment? If you are, please, let me know and I will get back to you with more information on the position.
Tuesday August 9, 2011 @ 11:04 AM
I have received a supposed job offer from a third party partner for JobSite UK for a company called Fakima FX. The person who sent me the email uses a name known as "Robyn" or "Robyn Mosby".
All I did was a search on this email address and was shown that it is a scam.
Robny[at]career-source.co.uk
Anyway, this is the email I recieved:
"Your CV has been found on the Jobsite UK database.
My name is Robyn, I am the manager of Career Source Recruitment, a leading recruiting agency for home based and part-time jobs. I email you with regard to the job seeking information you have recently posted.
I'd like to propose you the vacancy of Administrative Assistant available for you at your preferred Location.
Our client, Yakima FX - a major Japanese financial company,
the foreign exchange specialists operating within the Europe is a focused provider of payments and processing.
The company was formed in 1999 and has operations in Spain, Ireland, Australia, Malta, UAE, Scandinavia, GB
and the USA.
In a view of our client's growth in the GB market,
they are currently searching for new personnel.
Specific education is not requested to work at the Yakima FX. Our client provides you with the part-time job, you are able work 2-3 hours per day at any convenient time mostly staying in front of your PC.
The initial payrate varies within £1200-£3000 to be uplifted up to £8,000, and even higher bonuses for those ones making a good showing in some time.
Advantages :
-social welfare;
-interesting and exciting employment in the successfull company.
-up to three employment hours daily ; -no special skills needed ;
-flexible working schedule - choose a convenient work schedule;
-no charges and fees;
-career growth ;
-commissions from business deals;
This is NOT a telesales position.
See the company's official site for additional information:
http://www.yakimafx.com
Could you please confirm that you are still interested in employment? If you are, please, let me know and I will get back to you with more information on the position. "
Put it this way, I never applied for this job and I get an email stating that I have a Job Offer, but I had to let everyone else know that this is still happening and is a scam.
Friday August 12, 2011 @ 02:29 AM
I have the same situation. unfortunetly i send to mrs Robyn M my passport scan., but i think twice before i send him any signed contract.
i just wonder, what they can do with my scan passport? can they used him with any bad way?
Thursday August 18, 2011 @ 05:56 PM
I applied for an "Office Assistant" position from my local newspaper. The ad asked that I attach my resume to an e-mail. I received a prompt response asking for more information much like in the above postings. I again received a prompt response telling me that I was hired! I became suspicious but continued the dialogue until I received a FedEx package with a bogus check. I reported it all to the local authorities as well as the FBI. The FBI assured me that these people are not in the USA and are hoping that you will deposit their bad check into your own bank account and send it on per their request, keeping a sizable amount out for you "pay." My point here is that I answered an ad in my hometown newspaper that appeared to be a legitimate, local job. If you do go as far as I did and get a check with instructions to cash and send funds elsewhere, just try to cash the check at the bank upon which it was drawn.
Friday August 19, 2011 @ 09:55 AM
Just received a mail from Maria Brooke similar to those mentioned earlier. It did sound to good to be true. I requested a detailed role profile and contract. My alarm bells starting ringing when they mention using your bank account so I decided to investigate further i.e. checked to see if Yakima FX is a registered business and authorised payments processer with the Financial Services Authority - it isn't. My next concern was the contract was between an individual (Huruka Miyakowa) and me - odd since if it was a legit company the contract should be between the company and individual and yep signed on behalf of the company by an authorised representative. In any case I thought I would share this info and also thanks to you all for your postings - you've confirmed my suspicians.
Friday August 19, 2011 @ 09:19 PM
Haha, this is what i got. I was careful as i have previously recieved similar kind of things.
"Your CV has been obtained via Jobsite UK website.
My name is Maria, I am the manager of Career Source Recruitment, a leading recruiting agency for home based and part-time jobs. I email you with regard to the job seeking information you have recently posted.
I'd like to propose you the post of Administrative Assistant available for you at your preferred Location.
Our client, Yakima FX - a major Japanese financial corporation,
the foreign exchange specialists operating within the Europe is a focused provider of payments and processing.
The company was founded in 1999 and has operations in Spain, UK, UAE, Australia, Scandinavia, Ireland, Malta
and the USA.
In a view of our client's growth in the Britain market,
they are currently searching for new employees.
Specific education is not requested to work for the Yakima FX. Our client provides you with the part-time position, you can work 2-3 hours per day at any convenient schedule mostly sitting in front of your PC.
The initial payrate varies within £1200-£3000 to be uplifted to £8,000, and even higher bonuses for those ones making a good showing in some time.
Benefits :
-social welfare;
-career growth ; -no special skills needed ;
-commissions from business deals;
-flexible working schedule - choose a convenient work schedule;
-up to three employment hours per day ;
-interesting and exciting employment in the successfull corporation.
-no charges and fees;
This is NOT a telesales position."
Monday August 22, 2011 @ 10:53 AM
I have recieved the exact email today, how can anybody be sure it is a scam? couldnt this company just be trying to recruit assistants in the uk?
Tuesday August 23, 2011 @ 11:37 AM
I got the same e-mail from this maria after 5 min registering with Jobsite is it really a scam??
Thursday August 25, 2011 @ 06:08 AM
LMMAAAAAOOOOOOO i just recived the same email this morning, thank God that my boyfriend told me to always google companies, i knew it was too good to be true while i am doing a degreeeee
Friday June 3, 2011 @ 07:17 PM
Darn, I am looking for a job and for a minute it sounded good! Thank God for google or I probably would have replied. I have worked as s personal assistant before and my person was over seas a lot. But he signed it Mr. Turner and I found that odd. Plus who puts their age and how many kids they have unless that is part of the job?? Sucky world when someone will get you all excited about a job and scam you.